5 responses to “Mixed signals”

  1. paul hopwood

    I’d never bothered to look into the numbers, but I’d say it matches with my experience in the job market and its been getting worse year on year.

    … And don’t get me started on how many engineering jobs there are which are probably included in the figures & don’t involve engineering!

  2. GEARS

    I still think students would be better off getting a true ME/EE/ChemE degree and then taking additional bio engineering courses to effectively make a biomedical engineering degree.

    Some of the engineering principles I see from biomedical engineering are terrible. For example, some consider correlations of 50% to be “really good agreement with the theory”. For real engineers, 50% correlation means only a marginal correlation. I would prefer students get sound engineering principles and then move towards biomedical than the other way around.

  3. Puting Alexander Zamoronov

    If there is no green card/citizenship issue, I may have jumped into petroleum industry as well….sadly enough…years later…my MS degree turns out to be sort of useless during job hunting..For now, I highly recommend my students to take Australia into consideration, definitely not the US, since mining industry and petroleum ones are rapidly growing and the unemployment rates in these two over AUS is nearly zero, when students ask me about the situation in the US….I am speechless.

  4. Puting Alexander Zamoronov

    Mining and petroleum industry in China is kind of tricky, almost all the companies are owned by the government, not by the private ones…but still..employees could make a huge amount of money (mid career~150-200K US dollar/per year before tax). The other thing is that AUS is part of Asia and is closer to the students’ home,comapred to the US, so it is much easier for the employees to fly back as they need to pay a visit to the families. For the past 1 or 2 decades, AUS government not only provide massive amount of job opportunities,but also make the immigration/visa procedure fast and easy(this means a lot to the foreign employees, I cannot forget those painful days back in the US) This approach has been widely accepted as a way to compete with US and Russia. My cousin is major in gold mining in University of Western Australia (Perth) and he has no problem of finding a job with 90,000 AUD as entry salary (1 AUD is equivalent to 1 USD).

  5. ferd

    About those University claims about a “lack” of electrical engineers, remember that their aim is to sell University degrees. Those of us in the U.S. job market know that there is no real shortage of engineers, just a shortage of cheap engineers. With companies eager to replace expensive tenured engineers with naive fresh faces, there is demand for new engineering graduates. But a typical engineering career is now shorter than a home mortgage so it has become impractical. Potential engineering students aren’t dumb – they see what’s happening to their predecessors so they’re opting out. Not good for U.S. companies, but they’ve brought it upon themselves.